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В тюркских языкам есть слово который означает "я сам":

в одних (т.е. многих): өз - первоначальное означение главная артерия что-ли?

и в других: бод (бойы и т.п.) - собственно тело что-ли.

Из этого слова "бод" происходит слово "бодун" - народ. (в смысле сам и собственные)

В монгольском языке это слово тоже используется в слове "махбод, бод бие, бод гали" когда говорит что-то касающиеся о теле.

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В тюркских языкам есть слово который означает "я сам":

в одних (т.е. многих): өз - первоначальное означение главная артерия что-ли?

и в других: бод (бойы и т.п.) - собственно тело что-ли.

Из этого слова "бод" происходит слово "бодун" - народ. (в смысле сам и собственные)

В монгольском языке это слово тоже используется в слове "махбод, бод бие, бод гали" когда говорит что-то касающиеся о теле.

өз - сам, внутренняя часть, середина. еще есть кендю, кенди. бой в значении сам - скорее перенос значения. возможно вы правы. в турецком есть бой в значении род или народ

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өз - сам, внутренняя часть, середина. еще есть кендю, кенди. бой в значении сам - скорее перенос значения. возможно вы правы. в турецком есть бой в значении род или народ

өөр на монгольском. значит Өзбэк, это типо сам бек что ли? Өбэрбэки :rolleyes:

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OZ

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Altaic etymology :

Proto-Altaic: *o:/r/i\

Meaning: middle, inside

Russian meaning: середина, внутренность

Turkic: *o":r/

Mongolian: *o"ru"

Tungus-Manchu: *uri

Japanese: *u/ti\

Comments: EAS 112, KW 298, Poppe 81, АПиПЯЯ 74, Лексика 90. Despite TMN 2, 146, not borrowed in Mong. < Turk. Cf. *o\ru.

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Turkic etymology :

Proto-Turkic: *o":r/

Meaning: inside, the essential part

Russian meaning: середина, внутренность, сущность

Old Turkic: o"z (Orkh., OUygh.)

Karakhanid: o"z (MK)

Turkish: o"z

Tatar: u"z

Middle Turkic: o"z (Pav. C.)

Uzbek: o.z

Uighur: o"z

Sary-Yughur: u"z

Azerbaidzhan: o"z

Turkmen: o":z 'self'

Oyrat: u"s

Halaj: e:^.z

Chuvash: var

Yakut: u"o"s

Dolgan: u"o"s

Kirghiz: o"z

Kazakh: o"z

Noghai: o"z

Bashkir: u"d|

Gagauz: jo"z

Karaim: o"z

Karakalpak: o"z

Kumyk: o"z

Comments: EDT 278, VEWT 376-7, ЭСТЯ 1, 506-512, Лексика 90, 117, Stachowski 252. The word and its derivatives have a wide scope of meanings: 'middle' > 'heartwood, central crossbeam, pole' (*o":r/ek).

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Mongolian etymology :

Proto-Mongolian: *o"ru"

Meaning: inside, breast

Russian meaning: внутренность, грудь

Written Mongolian: o"ru" (L 643)

Middle Mongolian: oro (HY 46), ore (SH)

Khalkha: o"r

Buriat: u"re

Kalmuck: o"r@

Ordos: o"ro", o"r

Dagur: erecu: 'chest, bosom, breast' (MD 145)

Mogol: ZM oura" 'heart, mind' (4-4a)

Comments: KW 298.

BODUN

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Altaic etymology :

Proto-Altaic: *mu/gda\

Meaning: bank, earth

Russian meaning: земля; место

Turkic: *bodun

Mongolian: *muz^|i

Tungus-Manchu: *megdi: / *mugdi:

Korean: *ma\t(h)

Japanese: *ma/ti\

Comments: EAS 78-79, Whitman 1985, 171, 237, АПиПЯЯ 279. The hypothesis of borrowing in Korean from Tibetan (SKE 137) is untenable. The Turkic form may be alternatively derived from *bod 'body', in which case it may be unrelated to other forms above.

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Turkic etymology :

Proto-Turkic: *bodun

Meaning: people

Russian meaning: народ

Old Turkic: bodun (OUygh., Orkh,)

Karakhanid: bod|un (MK)

Comments: EDT 306, TMN 2, 812, Лексика 316.

BOD

Long-range etymologies :

MEANING: body

Eurasiatic: *bVdV

Afroasiatic: *bayad- ?

REFERENCE: ND 173 (with SH reflexes scattered between 173 *bodV and 172 *bedV).

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Nostratic etymology :

Nostratic: *bVdV

Meaning: body, belly

Altaic: *bo\da\

Dravidian: *pot.- (*pavt.-)

References: ND 173 *bodV.

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Altaic etymology :

Proto-Altaic: *bo\da\

Meaning: body; intestines, belly

Russian meaning: тело; внутренности, живот

Turkic: *bod

Mongolian: *boda

Japanese: *ba\ta\

Comments: EAS 57, Poppe 21, 53, KW 48, VEWT 77, АПиПЯЯ 279, Лексика 266. Despite TMN 2, 360, Mong. is hardly borrowed from Turk.

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Turkic etymology :

Proto-Turkic: *bod

Meaning: 1 body, stature 2 self 3 kin, tribe 4 counter for persons 5 length

Russian meaning: 1 тело, стан, рост 2 сам 3 род 4 сч. слово для лиц 5 длина

Old Turkic: bod 1, 2, 4 (Orkh., OUygh.)

Karakhanid: bod 1 (MK, KB), boj 3 (MK - Oghuz), bod 4 (KB)

Turkish: boj 1

Tatar: buj 5

Middle Turkic: boj 1 (Sangl., MA, Pav. C.)

Uzbek: bo.j 1, 5

Uighur: boj 1, 5

Sary-Yughur: poz 1, 4

Azerbaidzhan: boj 1

Turkmen: boj 1

Khakassian: pos 2

Shor: pozu 2

Oyrat: boj 2, 5

Halaj: bod 1

Chuvash: pu" 1, 5

Tuva: bot 2

Kirghiz: boj 1, 2, 5

Kazakh: boj 1, 2, 5

Noghai: boj 1, 5

Bashkir: buj 1, 5

Balkar: boj 1, 5

Gagauz: boj 1, 5

Karaim: boj 1, 2, 5

Karakalpak: boj 1, 2, 5

Salar: bojag|yr (< bojy agyr) 'pregnant' (ССЯ)

Kumyk: boj 1, 2, 5

Comments: EDT 296-297, VEWT 77, TMN 2, 358-361, ЭСТЯ 2, 176-178, Лексика 265.

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Mongolian etymology :

Proto-Mongolian: *boda

Meaning: substance, matter, body

Russian meaning: предмет, сущность, тело

Written Mongolian: boda (L 108)

Middle Mongolian: bodo 1, 2 (SH)

Khalkha: bod

Buriat: bodo

Kalmuck: bod@

Ordos: bodo

Comments: KW 48. Mong. > Evk. bodo. The root should be distinguished from *bodu 'cattle'. Philosophical connotations may have been acquired under the influence of Sanskr. bhu:ta, but a direct loan from Sanskr. is hardly credible, despite Sukhebatar 40.

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Japanese etymology :

Proto-Japanese: *ba\ta\

Meaning: 1 intestines 2 belly

Russian meaning: 1 внутренности, кишки 2 живот

Old Japanese: wata 1

Tokyo: wata/ 1

Kyoto: wa/ta\ 1

Kagoshima: wata/ 1

Nase: wa\ta/ 2

Shuri: wa/ta/ 2

Hateruma: ba\ta/ 2

Yonakuni: ba\ta\ 2

Comments: JLTT 569.

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Dravidian etymology :

Proto-Dravidian : *pot.- (*pavt.-)

Meaning : belly

Proto-South Dravidian: *pot.-ai

Proto-Telugu : *pot.t.-

Proto-Kolami-Gadba : *pot.-

Proto-Gondi-Kui : *pavt.-

Proto-North Dravidian : *pot.-

Notes : One should not neglect the data of PK.

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South Dravidian etymology :

Proto-South Dravidian : *pot.-ai

Meaning : belly

Kannada : pot.t.e

Kannada meaning : belly, paunch, stomach, womb

Kannada derivates : pod.e belly, pregnancy; put.t.i belly

Tulu : pot.t.e\

Tulu meaning : pregnancy

Tulu derivates : pot.t.ebañji a pot-belly (bañji belly); bod.d.e stout man

Notes : Kannada pod.e < *pUd.-ai? Tulu bod.d.e rather unclear as well: this could go back to *pot.-Vtai or something like that.

Number in DED : 4494

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Telugu etymology :

Proto-Telugu : *pot.t.-

Meaning : belly

Telugu : pot.t.a

Number in DED : 4494

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Kolami-Gadba etymology :

Proto-Kolami-Gadba : *pot.-

Meaning : belly

Kolami : pot.t.a

Naikri : pot.t.a

Naiki : pot.(t.)a

Parji : pot.t.a

Number in DED : 4494

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Gondwan etymology :

Proto-Gondi-Kui : *pavt.-

Meaning : belly

Proto-Gondi : *pot.-a:

Konda : pot.a

Proto-Pengo-Manda : *po:t.-

Proto-Kui-Kuwi : *pa?t.-

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Gondi etymology :

Proto-Gondi : *pot.-a:

Meaning : belly; intestines

Gommu Gondi : pot.t.a "belly, stomach"

Muria Gondi : pat.t.a "belly, stomach"

Maria Gondi : pot.t.a "belly, stomach"

Koya Gondi : pot.a "belly, stomach"

Maria Gondi (Mitchell) : pot.a "belly, stomach"

Mandla Gondi : pot.a "intestine"

Chanda Gondi : pota: "womb"

Number in DED : 4494

Number in CVOTGD : 2379

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Konda etymology :

Konda : pot.a

MEANING: stomach

Additional forms : Also Konda pot.u big intestines

Number in DED : 4494

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Pengo-Manda etymology :

Proto-Pengo-Manda : *po:t.-

Meaning : belly

Pengo : po:t.o

Manda : pu:t.a

Number in DED : 4494

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Kui-Kuwi etymology :

Proto-Kui-Kuwi : *pa?t.-

Meaning : belly

Dongriya Kuwi : pa't.a:

Kuwi (Mahanti) : pa't.a:

Number in DED : 4494

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North Dravidian etymology :

Proto-North-Dravidian : *pot.-

Meaning : bowels

Kurukh : pot.t.a: "bowels, entrails"

Malto : pur.a "belly, bowels"

Number in DED : 4494

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Afroasiatic etymology :

Proto-Afro-Asiatic: *bayad-

Meaning: arm with shoulder

Semitic: *ba/uday- shoulder; body member (arm?)

Berber: *bad- 'breast'

Western Chadic: Cf. *s^a-bad- 'shoulder' (composed word?)

East Chadic: *bayad- 'arm'

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Semitic etymology :

Proto-Semitic: *bu:z-

Meaning: 'muffle'

Arabic: bu:z-

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Berber etymology :

Proto-Berber: *bad-

Meaning: 'breast'

Ahaggar (Tahaggart): a>-ba:da

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Western Chadic etymology :

Proto-WChadic: *s^a-bad-

Meaning: 'shoulder'

Warji: l/a-ba\da/i

Kariya: l/a/-ba\d@/

Miya: l/@-b@di\

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Eastern Chadic etymology :

Proto-EChadic: *bayad-

Meaning: 'arm'

Tumak: bed

Ndam: ba:d

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